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I wonder, with what you said about how consciousness is "an irreducible quality not present in or derivable from matter (i.e., dynamics of subatomic particles)," what you'd say about Roger Penrose's "orchestrated objective reduction" thesis, which posits consciousness as an effect of quantum gravity (The Emperor's New Mind). Seems like that could be a derivation of matter, unless the answer is as simple as "quantum mechanics is wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff and not conducive to proper materialism."

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